• AI LLM Artificial intelligence infrastructure

    From bbsing@VERT/LUNAROUT to All on Sun Mar 8 21:47:13 2026
    Hi All,

    Is anyone out there doing self hosted LLM Artificial Intelligence for infrastucture use?

    What about cloud based AI LLM tools for infrastructure build out.

    Like building and configuring systems.
    Setting up virtual machines, lxd's, and virtual networks.

    I've just spoke with a friend who is a software engineer, and he is saying its eat or be eaten in the software development world. The company he works for CEO is working with only 1/3 the current dev staff, and still making significant progress using AI LLM tools.

    I work in infrastructure, and don't hear much about AI in that space yet.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to bbsing on Mon Mar 9 04:18:59 2026
    Re: AI LLM Artificial intelligence infrastructure
    By: bbsing to All on Sun Mar 08 2026 09:47 pm

    Hi All,

    Is anyone out there doing self hosted LLM Artificial Intelligence
    for infrastucture use?

    i dont have much experience at that stuff but i have a friend who
    is being pressured to come up with something like that.

    he's the head of IT at a large staffing company.
    the people pressuring him dont know much about it either. they are hoping to have AI handle almost everything.

    What about cloud based AI LLM tools for infrastructure build out.

    Like building and configuring systems. Setting up virtual machines,
    lxd's, and virtual networks.

    yeah my buddy did mention that. they want him to come up with intergration
    for all that.
    I've just spoke with a friend who is a software engineer, and he is
    saying its eat or be eaten in the software development world. The
    company he works for CEO is working with only 1/3 the current

    dude they are using ai for everything. people are using it for writing emails and doing posts on linkedin and everything.


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  • From bbsing@VERT/LUNAROUT to MRO on Mon Mar 9 09:23:06 2026
    Re: AI LLM Artificial intelligence infrastructure
    By: MRO to bbsing on Mon Mar 09 2026 04:18:59

    i dont have much experience at that stuff but i have a friend who
    is being pressured to come up with something like that.

    he's the head of IT at a large staffing company.
    the people pressuring him dont know much about it either. they are hoping to have AI handle almost everything.

    yeah my buddy did mention that. they want him to come up with intergration for all that.

    I'm in infrastructure and I'm wanting to figure some of this stuff out. It looks like LLM systems are not going away, so using, creating, maintianing these type of systems might take me through the next 16 years of my working life.

    Trying to get a system capable of running LLM models equals lots of cash, and I'm on the fence if I should get into it, so I'm wondering if anyone out here is doing any stuff on the self hosting side.


    dude they are using ai for everything. people are using it for writing emails and doing posts on linkedin and everything.

    email is so silly. AI (LLM) systems communicating with each other on behalf of people is lame. People already are having problems communicating with each other the more assistance, will only attrify that ability. I think the point of email was for people to communicate, not for systems to communicate. There are lots of protocols for systems to communicate.

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  • From Agent@VERT/DMINE to BBSING on Mon Mar 9 19:16:45 2026
    On 19/03/2026 22:51, bbsing wrote:

    I've just spoke with a friend who is a software engineer, and he is saying its eat or be eaten in the software development world. The company he works for CEO is working with only 1/3 the current dev staff, and still making significant progress using AI LLM tools.

    It's mostly hype and a lot of failed businesses (those keen on letting developers go) are going to be realised sooner than later.

    AI is a toolset in a developer's toolbox. LLMs are one of those tools. In that way, they are no more or less than a compiler, debugger, or IDE. Should we shun those things and go back to punchcards?

    People need carpenters to build a wooden chair from scratch with quality craftsmanship; they'll still need software developers in the future to ensure software is built with the same concept of quality craftsmanship.

    The other thing to bear in mind: no one wants or needs yet another Photoshop, there's plenty of alternatives. The idea that "anyone can make their own" is not only false, but would also be a productivity failure for a company to engage in, not a productivity boost. They should have focused on their business, not reinventing someone else's (unless they're genuinely going to compete.)

    Then there's the liability issue. Say a company relies on Excel, but they decide to vibe their own - now if it gets math wrong, who is liable? The Post Office Horizon scandal in the UK is a pre-AI example of this kind of ownership of responsibility meets liability issue.
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  • From phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to bbsing on Tue Mar 10 13:57:53 2026
    Re: AI LLM Artificial intelligence infrastructure
    By: bbsing to All on Sun Mar 08 2026 09:47 pm

    Is anyone out there doing self hosted LLM Artificial Intelligence for infrastucture use?

    Haha, a friend of mine tried it, even with some model that was supposed to be good at doing stuff for you, and it totally messed up his OS install.

    He tried it several times, even.

    I would definitely not trust LLMs to do any live systems managing. You might be able to utilize one to create network install images or a one-time setup that you can actively work on with it, but you certainly wouldn't want to let it just do its own thing. For someone that knows what they are doing, it would probably take much less time for them to do it themselves than to try to have an LLM do things for them. It might save the time of someone who is clueless and has never been a sysadmin at all, but for a pro it would be a huge waste of time to have to constantly correct the LLM every time it does something wrong.

    Speaking of which, I'm an unemployed infrastructure sysadmin, if you should happen to see anything open ;).

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  • From phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to bbsing on Tue Mar 10 14:01:15 2026
    Re: AI LLM Artificial intelligence infrastructure
    By: bbsing to MRO on Mon Mar 09 2026 09:23 am

    Trying to get a system capable of running LLM models equals lots of cash, an I'm on the fence if I should get into it, so I'm wondering if anyone out her

    I've got a system set up with ollama and 24gb vram. I can show you what a hosted model can do via chat or something. It's really not very good.
    A cloud-hosted one might do better, but the risk is still extremely high of it doing things you don't want.

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  • From bbsing@VERT/LUNAROUT to phigan on Tue Mar 10 22:31:04 2026
    Re: AI LLM Artificial intelligence infrastructure
    By: phigan to bbsing on Tue Mar 10 2026 14:01:15

    Hi phigan,

    Re: AI LLM Artificial intelligence infrastructure
    By: bbsing to MRO on Mon Mar 09 2026 09:23 am

    Trying to get a system capable of running LLM models equals lots of cash, an I'm on the fence if I should get into it, so I'm wondering if anyone out her

    I've got a system set up with ollama and 24gb vram. I can show you what a

    What models are you liking, and what sizes are you getting good TPS?
    What do you think is good TPS?
    Have you tried Deepseek-v3?
    vllm?

    hosted model can do via chat or something. It's really not very good.
    A cloud-hosted one might do better, but the risk is still extremely high of it doing things you don't want.


    13 years ago messing things up was my concern with scripting aspects of sys admin work. I worked with a Jr admin, and he was really liking powershell, but at the time was new to it. My worry was scripts have a great way have doing things quickly but also screwing things up quickly. He was a great team member and his scripting use inspired me to adopt his ideas. He left for a different job closer to home. I miss working with him. Now most of my work is via scripting because I have too much to do and without scripts it takes too long. I really get to know individual systems better with full hands on vs scripts, and I like knowing each system, its behavior, but efficeincy demands quickery.

    I've been contemplating building an system for LLM personal lab work on infrastructure, with the idea of discriptive text for total orchistration, including builds, configuration, and management on windows/linux/bsd type systems. I'm having a hell of a time getting costs down. 24vgb is expensive, about as expensive as 32vgb rtx 5090.

    I've looked at so many builds with rtx 3060, rtx 4090, rtx 5090. 3060's are gone, 4090's are way overpriced, and if they burn up, are likely not going to be the card to replace a broken device. rtx 5080s are around but the older cards are just as good, but their way over MSRP. Its been pretty dang frustrating.

    Back in 2000, I was facing a similar issue. I was priced out of hardware and OS due to cost, so I couldn't build a lab to learn on. Now I'm in the same place. I don't really want to spend $8K on a build that is obsolete in two years. I also don't want to miss out on all the hype/fun/understanding.

    I was hoping distributive computing would have been the thing instead of giant LLM type shtuff.

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